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What Would You Do?

Posted by Bryan on February 29, 2008

Can you believe it’s Friday already? TGIF!!! By now, most of you know what that means here at deerPhD - It’s What Would You Do time? Today’s scenario is a real-life situation I experienced about a year and a half ago.

Here’s the backdrop: It’s the final day of the PA rifle season. I have only a buck tag, and my father has only a doe tag. Since I was away in OH most of the season, BigK and I decide to hunt together - each with our own rifle. If a shooter buck comes, it’s mine - if a big doe steps out - it’s his. At about 4:30 PM, we spot a beautiful and mature doe standing about 150 yards away. BigK aims his Remington Model 700 30-06 and delivers a perfect shot (I mean perfect!!!).

The deer ran down a hill about 80 yards from an access road, so we exit the woods and park his truck on this road. We then re-enter the woods from this road (BigK unarmed; I take my rifle in case we spot a buck) to gut and drag the doe.

Here’s the itchy scenario: While dragging the deer, we hear, “Freeze, Game Commission. Stop where you are and drop your gun. Step away from the deer.”

Dad and I were freaked. We put our hands up and turned around.

“I watched you shoot from the road. You’re going to be cited.” (Note: he was literally yelling at us, with his hand on his pistol ready to draw.)

Dad and I are astounded, but before I tell you how it went down…WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

A. Talk with the officer and get things straightened out.

B. Call for back-up (i.e., friends, maybe even the state police).

C. This officer was way out of line, and you can’t help but be frustrated an angered. A heated argument is inevitable.

D. Comply with the officer’s every request, even if that means being cited for something you didn’t do (he’s got a gun, and he’s in charge now).

Since this was a real-life event, I am really looking forward to your comments. I’ll be sure to finish the story early next week. Until then, have a wonderful weekend!

 ———UPDATED March 4, 2008———

Awesome comments everyone - thanks for chiming in. As many of you alluded to, this was a tight situation for Big K and myself…here’s how it went down.

My first thoughts were, “There’s no way out of this - he’s lying and he has already made-up his mind.”  I think it was my gut reaction to start walking toward him, wanting to shake his hand and start to talk things over. Wow was this a bad move. The officer yelled louder, “I said freeze - don’t walk to me, I’ll walk to you.” He then bee-lined for the deer and checked his ear tag (everything was legal by the way).  He then said, “Okay, I will write you up - I saw you shoot from the road.”

Being the one who made the shot, my dad said, “Now wait a minute, we shot from the other direction - go look at the blood trail.” The officer responded, “But I saw you shoot from the road.”

Big K’s response, “Now wait a minute, we have huts on the other side from which we shot. Let’s go look; I bet the casing is still there. Plus, you can follow the blood trail.”

The officer then said, “Okay, tell me your story” and Big K did just that.

No questions asked - he believed the story and congratulated him on a successful kill. He then said, “I’ll follow you to your truck; I want to check you stored your gun.”

Luckily (well, not luck, it’s good practice) BigK stored his rifle unloaded and bolt open. The officer waited until I put my gun away and then said, “Now let me see how you did it.”

Needless to say, this guy was on the prowl. I don’t know what his deal was, but it sure did give me a sour taste of PA Game Management. In my opinion, that’s the worst thing an officer can do - they should be there to encourage us to obey the law, not catch us in a trap (or worse, a made-up story). Fortunately, it all worked out in the end. I still think of that great shot BigK pulled off - it was absolutely perfect!!!

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13 Responses to “What Would You Do?”

  1. Rick Says:

    I would try “A” but, probably it will end up being “D”. You could always fight it in court later.

    Say your YES SIRS and NO SIRS and do not give him a reason to make things worse then go to court with reinforcements (a lawyer)and see where you get.

  2. Big K Says:

    Sounds very familiar. I forgot about that one. That made for a very interesting day. Sometimes wardens can act like idiots. I’m sure it’s the exception to the rule, but they are out there and we have to deal with them. Anyway, I know what happened in detail and it was definitely a learning experience.

  3. Marian Says:

    I would go with A. My husband and I had a Game Warden to approach us in the woods to see if we had a hunting license on us. Another time I was on a stand on the main road to the camp and a Game Warden walked in and stopped to asked me for my license. I told him it was in my purse in the truck…he gave me a warning since I believe he was very surprised that I was a woman. That was a close call…never forgot it again. If you talk and explain the situation, I think it could be straighen out in a civilized manner. Hopefully, you and your Dad were able to calm him down and explain your situation without having to do D.

  4. Adam Says:

    I would go with A. And if need be D.

  5. Arthur Says:

    I pick A as well. I’m really curious to hear exactly what happened.

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  7. Arthur Says:

    That guy does sound like a real treat. Glad to hear everything worked for you guys though and that he finally came around, looked at the evidence, and used some common sense.

  8. deerPhD Says:

    Thanks Arthur!

  9. Matt Says:

    Sorry I missed this post last week. Sounds like you did the right thing and probably exactly what I would have done.

    The game wardens around here seem to be so busy investigating real complaints that they don’t have time to try and trap honest hunters. I’ve never had anything but positive experiences with them.

    Sounds like the guy you ran into needs some re-training.

  10. Albert A Rasch Says:

    After reading the whole story, I sure hope you got that SOBs badge number and reported him. We are pretty lucky to have reasonable wardens down here. But a warden that bold face lies and borders on entrapment needs to be reined in, if not removed from public contact.

    Regards,
    Albert A Rasch
    The Rasch Outdoor Chronicles

  11. Deer Hunting Gear Says:

    Sounds like you got it all straightened out. I would have had some issue with someone accusing me of something that I knew was untruthful.

    Regards,
    Matt Barlow
    Deer Hunting Gear

  12. Marian Says:

    Hope you and yours are OK Bryan….Missing you! Marian

  13. Marian Says:

    Bryan - let us hear from you. It’s been a long time. Hope you and yours are OK. Marian

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